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Headlines : "War on Terror"
Summary:

The “Pinochet precedent” energized the use of national courts to end impunity for the worst abusers, and cases against former dictators and generals, mostly from African and Latin American countries, followed.

Germany’s response to the Rumsfeld case will be an important test of whether the Pinochet precedent applies to the leaders of superpowers as well as leaders from weaker countries.

[Posted By ShiftShapers]
By Alexia Garamfalvi
Republished from Legal Times
No one thinks that Donald Rumsfeld will end his days in a German prison.

Or that there is any real chance he will have to face trial in Germany over allegations that he authorized policies leading to the torture of prisoners at U.S. detention facilities in Iraq and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

But that doesn’t mean that a complaint filed in Germany last month won’t have some ripple effects. The complaint asks a federal prosecutor there to begin an investigation, and ultimately a criminal prosecution, of the former secretary of defense and other U.S. officials for their roles in the abuses.

“Rumsfeld is no longer untouchable,” says Wolfgang Kaleck, the German lawyer who filed the complaint along with the New York-based Center for Constitutional Rights and the International Federation for Human Rights. “He is now deeply connected with claims of abuses and torture. We have taken the first step to begin the legal discussion on his accountability.”

The complaint against Rumsfeld, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, former CIA director George Tenet, and other senior civilian and military officials, was filed in mid-November on behalf of 11 Iraqis who had been detained at Abu Ghraib prison and Mohammed al-Qahtani, a Saudi detained at Guantanamo.

It alleges that the defendants ordered, aided, and abetted war crimes and failed to prevent the commission…

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If these crimes are not fully investigated and the guilty punished there is no end to similar incidents in other countries.

Rio_Alto @ 12/31/06 12:00:30

Rumsfeld Tops War Crimes List

Shitshaker, let’s be clear here. He tops your war criminals list.

nobinPoddywodder @ 12/31/06 12:56:24

He tops mine too. And most people I know. There could be more. THe author of this piece, probably his friends. There are lots really. In fact, nobin? I dont know anyone who thinks that Rumsfeld is not a war criminal. You are pretty much the only voice I have heard that might think otherwise.

Funny that.

Memnoch02 @ 12/31/06 13:31:41

I actually know lots of leftists, I think that the contemporary term is liberals, and I don’t know one who says that Rumsfeld is a war criminal. And I am talking 2 SD from the mean left. I don’t associate with the wacko far left more than that.

Now your buddy shitshaper is more like 7 or 8 SDs left from the mean of contemporary politics so I assume that that sillyness is common amongst his ilk. You have to be quite delusional to believe that crap.

How delusional you might ask. Well, let’s say “there are no islamic terrorists, only arabic workers struggling against capitalism and colonialism” looney. Looney as a two dollar coin.

nobinPoddywodder @ 12/31/06 13:47:46

while rummy may not top the likes of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert & the architects of the conflict in darfur, he ranks pretty high. it really is a package isn’t it: rumsfeld, bush, rice, wolfowitz & the ultra arch demon: cheney.
but we all know, they’ll live out their lavish lives insulated from any prosecution because the american public doesn’t have the endurance or will to take on this task. the problem with the battle between good and evil: good have boundries. evil can do everything good can do & can act well beyond the boundries of moral behaviour.
i think if most people knew the truth as to the depths these people have sunk to accomplish their deeds, they wouldn’t be able to handle it.

antiguanoctane @ 12/31/06 14:11:16

“I actually know lots of leftists, I think that the contemporary term is liberals, and I don’t know one who says that Rumsfeld is a war criminal. And I am talking 2 SD from the mean left. I don’t associate with the wacko far left more than that.”

You are American no?

There is a world outside the USA just so you know.

Memnoch02 @ 12/31/06 15:35:23

Why are you exploding your dialectic with ShitftShapers, nobinPoddywodder? Is it a matter of explaining away a considerate mind, or a matter of exploring your infantile desire to get picked first in gym class? I’m here for you buddy…it’s going to be O’tay.

mordant_abstract @ 12/31/06 16:12:05

This all comes down to facts. Was Rummy aware of or did he order the tortures taking place? Did he have any part of the transport of detainees for the sake of torture? If the answer is “YES” then he is a war criminal. It is that simple.

old_hippie @ 01/01/07 11:09:35

old_hippe I disagree.

nobinPoddywodder @ 01/01/07 11:20:08

The fact that after 9/11 Americans were in a haze of rage and grief cannot be denied. Some saw an opportunity to cash in on it : Cheney, Rumsfeld and co. Wag the Dog : The True Story…

mikecimerian @ 01/02/07 17:59:33

This is your considered opinion?

nobinPoddywodder @ 01/02/07 18:14:29
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