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Interest in survivalism — in either its traditional hard-core version or a middle-class “lite” variation — functions as a leading economic indicator of social anxiety, preparedness experts said: It spikes at times of peril real (the post-Sept. 11 period) or imagined (the chaos that was supposed to follow the so-called Y2K computer bug in 2000).

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By Alex Williams
Republished from New York Times
Survivalism: The New Black

THE traditional face of survivalism is that of a shaggy loner in camouflage, holed up in a cabin in the wilderness and surrounded by cases of canned goods and ammunition.

It is not that of Barton M. Biggs, the former chief global strategist at Morgan Stanley. Yet in Mr. Biggs’s new book, “Wealth, War and Wisdom,” he says people should “assume the possibility of a breakdown of the civilized infrastructure.”

“Your safe haven must be self-sufficient and capable of growing some kind of food,” Mr. Biggs writes. “It should be well-stocked with seed, fertilizer, canned food, wine, medicine, clothes, etc. Think Swiss Family Robinson. Even in America and Europe there could be moments of riot and rebellion when law and order temporarily completely breaks down.”

Survivalism, it seems, is not just for survivalists anymore.

Faced with a confluence of diverse threats — a tanking economy, a housing crisis, looming environmental disasters, and a sharp spike in oil prices — people who do not consider themselves extremists are starting to discuss doomsday measures once associated with the social fringes.

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variable @ 04/09/08 08:46:45

Article – “Your safe haven must be self-sufficient and capable of growing some kind of food,” Mr. Biggs writes. “It should be well-stocked with seed, fertilizer, canned food, wine, medicine, clothes, etc.

Wine? This guy isn’t taking the ‘roughing it’ approach to survival, methinks…

Truthcansuk @ 04/09/08 12:00:23

Wine has some medicinal utility as well as beneficial nutrients and keeps well as compared to many other beverages.

Good for the “this is the end of the world blues.”

Peace,

GWHunta @ 04/09/08 12:18:18

Maintaining mental health can be as challenging as maintaining physical health during periods of extreme change and limited social contact.

Think of the wine as a “comfort food.”

GWHunta @ 04/09/08 12:25:17

wine eh? hmmm…. i’ll hafta try that one

Livingston @ 04/09/08 12:37:24

Wine has some medicinal utility as well as beneficial nutrients and keeps well as compared to many other beverages

Sure, the questionable thing is that he is arguing for stockpiling rather than learning to make wine, which ain’t hard even if it is hard to make “good” wine.

sisyphus @ 04/09/08 12:39:43

variable @ 04/09/08 12:55:39

opalheartclinic

variable @ 04/09/08 14:14:11

The Day of the Triffids

Wyndham’s novel, much more than the film which was based on it, is concerned with how humans would react to a catastrophe and attempt to rebuild society. After the initial panic, the sighted people try different, and competing forms of government. Some feel that the sighted should try to help those less fortunate. Others believe that there is no way to help the blind in the long-term and focus should be set on rebuilding a society for those who could see. Others, still, believe sighted and blind can live together, helping each other. Although Wyndham has definite views on which of these types of society would work better, he acknowledges that within each group there are different ways to achieve the goal of retaining civilization, and, in many cases, more than one can be successful.

Reviewed by Steven H Silver

mikecimerian @ 04/09/08 14:42:08

The book is popular with survivalist groups as it combines the civil engineering and physics of fallout shelter survival with the social dynamics of “lifeboat rules,” or autocratic authority under extreme conditions, a theme further explored in depth in The Number of the Beast. To paraphrase Mr. Farnham, “How do you know who is the officer in the lifeboat? The one with the gun.”

variable @ 04/09/08 15:03:53

Why is the times running this story and holding 50’s cold war paranoia and post 9/11 fears up as acceptable reasons to be fearful?

Not that the future’s rosy but such an issue could be handled differently. Are they going from total denial of environmental and socioeconomic problems to calling for catastrophe with no middle stage in between?

What a load of shit.

omnicentric @ 04/09/08 15:38:24

One of the early sections of the first book features a series of devastating plagues which sweep around the world, resulting in the death of some 80% of the Human population. As the survivors struggle to rebuild civilisation they discover that a large variety of new plant and animal lifeforms are establishing themselves on Earth — hundreds of species in all. These species are alien in origin, and are almost universally far superior to the Earth organisms which occupy the same ecological niches. As a result Earth’s entire ecology is being rapidly supplanted.

Throughout the storyline there is no sign of any intelligent aliens at all. The only reason Humans suppose intelligence to be behind the invasion is the presumption that unseen spacecraft must have brought all the plant and animal invaders to Earth. The presumed goal of these off-stage aliens is nothing less than the complete replacement of Earth’s entire ecology and the resultant extinction of all native life, at which time they will arrive and claim the planet without a single shot being fired.

The books largely follow the adventures of Jim McCarthy, a scientist and soldier in the U.S. Army who attempts to understand the Chtorran ecology even as he engages in combat to destroy it. His early efforts primarily focus on the “Worms”, a particularly large and dangerous Chtorran carnivorous species whose prey includes Humans. Much of the text is akin to a detective story in which McCarthy and others investigate the rapidly expanding Chtorran ecosystem and attempt to unravel the ecological relationships between the various species. Gerrold has created very detailed and extensive notes on how the Chtorran ecology functions as a background to the books[citation needed].

In addition to very imaginative descriptions of alien ecology, the Chtorr series is also noteworthy for its contrasting lengthy discussions and deep emphasis on various aspects of human psychology, particularly under wartime and survival conditions.

The War Against the Chtorr

mikecimerian @ 04/09/08 15:39:15

What a load of shit.

best thing…. it was in fashion & style… ffsake survivalism may be the new emo!


i’ll stick w/ the greatwinter trilogy

variable @ 04/09/08 15:53:55

Thanks, looks like good reading.

mikecimerian @ 04/09/08 18:08:27

meh. i wonder if there could be a emo survivalism crossover… camo vests on dudes with 80 dollar girl hair cuts

fuck it
call me when rage is all the rage.

Livingston @ 04/09/08 18:46:42

on edit: hmmm, sleep now in the fire

remarcus @ 04/09/08 20:17:42

we are holding our collective breath bracing for the catastrophe that will bring about change. a change of government, an environmental change, a change of time and space etc. anything will do really. anything to free us from the stupor of everyday life. we are always waiting for an external saviour. how sad it is that we, as a society, are capable of change of true change, but are unwilling or afraid to do so. so dream on of the boring, mind numbing, industrial nightmare and it’s eventual demise.

wanderartist @ 04/09/08 21:47:31

Wanderartist – very well said.

doliver @ 04/10/08 11:06:43

In the catastrophe cinematographic genre , catastrophe is also subtext.

mikecimerian @ 04/10/08 14:34:25

Following with wanderartist proposition, I would add that we have externalized Death and that it is not folksy.

The absolute nature of a global nuclear war, of pandemics and other big die backs is how Death is represented now. Externalized as it is, it remains a fight or flee response/situation. Bring in Daniel Boone and America’s founding myths and you’ve got a survivalist.

mikecimerian @ 04/10/08 18:49:06

this thread needs Motörhead:

sisyphus @ 04/10/08 21:50:50

Wine by the way, helps reduce radio-active isotopes bind to the human body. It is a custom in Russian nuclear subs to drink wine as a health prevention measure.

Anti-oxidizers like wine and iodine are radiologic exposure first aid kit.

mikecimerian @ 04/10/08 23:49:55
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