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Forum : Sci-Tech
R261048
2 years ago
TheHatter

cheers
Thats a sobering read.

R261053
2 years ago
Artaud

I’m going to sing the doom song.

Doom, doom, doom…

R261074
2 years ago
neurolingo

Is this a replay of the Novartis scheme at Berkeley? The real problem here is that this so called “donation” is actually a move to control research by a fossil fuel corporation, modelled after Stanford’s “Global Climate and Energy Program” – which was funded largely by ExxonMobil, who then gained final decision power over what research to fund, meaning there’s lots of coal-to-liquid and ‘clean coal’ con job work being done, and nothing else.

If BP wanted to fund renewable research, they could set up their own labs to do it – buit it’s cheaper to have the University of California do it, and just as with the Stanford case, they’ll control all patents generated for a minium of five years, if not longer, and anyone who thinks they’ll promote renewables (a threat to their lucrative petroleum markets) is living in a fantasy world – this is an attempt to control renewable energy and prevent it from getting onto the market, which is exactly what fossil fuel corporations have been doing ever since 1903.

The corporate corruption of the University of California is a documented fact.

R261075
2 years ago
neurolingo

One other point: the situation in Mexico is due to the passage of NAFTA in 1996 , which allowed US agribusiness to dump corn in Mexico at below-market rates. This drove farmers off the land, and now US agribusiness has cornered the market (with the help of their $30 billion a year in US taxpayer subsidies), and are jacking up prices. The small farmers now work in slave labor ‘free-trade zones’ or as undoumented workers on US corporate farms – that’s the real dynamic at play.

Conveniently, agribusiness can blame this all on corn, but in 2005-2006 only 15% of corn went to ethanol; 55% went to factory farming hogs and chickens, and 20% was exported to Mexico and Africa under ‘free-trade rules’ – only 2% went to food production in the US.

Corn-based ethanol is no panacea, but it has little to do with the situation in Mexico – get your facts straight.

R261691
2 years ago
Merlin

However, this doesnt take into account raising efficiency through research. Sure We cant sustain current levels of energy demand, but we can cut fossil fuel consumption with some biofuels, and raise efficiency to slash that consumption even more.

Obviously Ethonol has its downsides, like instead of using the corn for fuel (or for feeding livestock) it could be used for humanitarian purposes. Although, on the flip side of that, that would just increase the thirdworld’s consumption as they strive to live like Americans…

anyone know why I cant email this article? (im getting a ‘cant send draft articles’ message

thanks anthony, nice find.

R261781
2 years ago
mistaB

We obviously can’t trust big oil and big agro have the keys to the future. For that matter, we can’t let capitalism have it.

We already have the solutions to fuel efficiency but we’re numbskulled on going about implementation. A lighter car goes further cheaper. Now you can’t just make a 800 pound car and put it on the road without a behemoth pushing it a block or two. You have to lighten over time.

We really need to evaluate where we are going with our cars all the time. Maybe it’s not such a good idea to design communities as if every member had a car.

We can either start localizing now or we can be forced into it later.

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