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R341507
6 months ago
johnnycivil

what a painful article.

by replacing the words “occupying regime” with “Israel,” but the occupation that Ahmadinejad had hinted at in the original quote was eliminated to make the statement an irrational and irreconcilable desire to annihilate the people in Israel — and by extension, Jews… which is the occupation that A ‘hinted at’ in the original?

Ahm rose to power in Iran based on his ‘Legend’ of being a boss of the ‘embassy takeover’
with consideration of the “october surprise”, Prez Carter’s confirmation (though what is the word of a Prez worth?) of Republican manipulation of the Iran crisis, the fact that the U.S. withdrew all support for the Shah six months prior to the ‘revolution’, the fact that the U.S. was simultaneously setting up ‘Islamic warriors’ next door to do in the soviets (whose goal was a takeover of Iran and Iraq-thus control of global oil…duh), the fact that, besides the Shah (who they let go to a hospital), america was hostile to all his old cronies after the revolution, yes, with consideration of some of these facts, and adding a dask of Johnny Civil logic, i presume Ahm is a CIA asset. How about that ‘holocaust deniers conference’ right on cue? After we torch Iran, Ahm will be playing table tennis with Saddam and OBL in the swiss resort Baarrffinstrudel. (Or they will just be iced)

Smoke much crack?

R341510
6 months ago
johnnycivil
R341727
6 months ago
zephid

I remember Information Clearinghouse ran the translated speech of Ahmadinejad as an article when he supposedly said “Israel should be wiped off the map.” And, funny enough, in the context of the speech, it wasn’t such a radical statement. That people focus on it reminds me of how sound bite obsessed the news media are.

R341777
6 months ago
Rosebud

I was in the military at the time when the Embassy was taken in Iran. I was being prepared to deploy in 24 hours. I had to sign my last “will and testament” and I had 2 Insurance Policies to choose from as I sat in a conference room at my command being briefed on the situation in Iran and receiving orders. My wife was grabbing my sea-bag for me and bringing it to the base. I was a Navy Corpsman. Outside of that scenario, The best that I understood was that the Shah was eventually admitted into a Medical Center in the U.S. for treatment of lymphatic cancer. He died in Egypt. He was hated by his countrymen for past atrocities against citizens and he was also held low regard for policies that were offensive to the Islam. He appointed Ayatollah Khomeini to office, as best as I understand, and it seemed that it was the Ayatollah that kicked the Shah out of the country (I don’t know the real reason why). Also, I had the impression that other prevailing forces in Iran wanted the Shah brought back to Iran to be tried for crimes and the main contention was that our government refused give him to the Iranians, thus, the Embassy take-over. I was in my early 20’s and I knew nothing about the Iranians and the Farsi Language. So now you have a general idea of what was being portrayed to our citizens at the time. I’ve read a lot of articles on the subject in response to this article and there are irreconcilable and contradictory statements in most of the other published articles on the internet. If I were in my twenties right now, I would walk away from this subject not knowing “heads from tails”. At the age of 50, I must admit that now I’m not sure what to believe even now. I have noticed a lot of revisions being made, not only in various Historical Accounts such as American history books but also I have noted changes in documents in the U.S. Library of Congress itself. This is not a new or surprising to me. When the Communists took over after the 2nd and successful Boxer Rebellion in China, most of Buddhists Shrines were plundered of jewels and precious metals, desecrated and often torn-down just like the Statue of Saddam Hussein and the grave-monument of Ahmed Michael Aflak in Iraq. Also many specific words were forcibly changed in the Chinese Language. The point is that every time there is a change in regime, expect a lot of things to be destroyed. We really have not had a change here in the U.S. in regime since Reagan took office. So, a large number of things have been altered.

As for Israel, as long as I can remember being alive, the same group of people have been controlling their government. The reason I believe this is not from their words or the change of names in their government, from period to period in history, but from seeing the same actions being done over and over again from generation to generation. They continuously piss-off the surrounding nations and at every turn of negotiations they turn around and commit another atrocity followed by an immediate excuse of retaliation before the ink on the signed Treaties and Agreements have even dried. They are arrogant and smug about it top of that. Until they change their internal policy of how to deal with their neighbors, don’t expect to see any change in your life time. Though I have Judean blood coursing through my veins, I renounce the criminal monsters that control both Israel and the United States at this time in history. Whether we are talking about Palestinians, Basques, Romany, Kurds, or poor people in the Southern U.S., this can be guaranteed: If you treat people like wild and feral animals, they will bite you! As for me I choose to actively participate in immediate civilization where I live by trying to help unemployed American citizens get job, housed and fed in the local economy. It helps me stay employed at the same time.
R342072
6 months ago
johnnycivil

help unemployed American citizens get job, housed and fed in the local economy. It helps me stay employed at the same time.
-organize them into militias and print your own euros
i got my info from two members of the shah’s cabinet independent of each other
plus other research

R342438
6 months ago
Rosebud

Euros! lol! Nice one Johhny.

“i got my info from two members of the shah’s cabinet independent of each other
plus other research”
Thanks for reading my comment. At least a few people are paying attention. :)

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